121-123, 15 Oct 1905-8 Nov 1906, written with the assistance of/by his mother Lady Elisabeth Mary Babington Smith.
122, 10 Feb 1906, encloses a sketch.
Item 121 is an incomplete copy of an undated letter.
121-127: Written by or with the assistance of Lady Elisabeth Mary Babington Smith.
128: 9 Aug. 1915 with additional notes from Margaret, Constance, and Lady Elisabeth Mary Babington Smith to Henry Babington Smith.
149, 151, 153: Typescript
150: 23 Aug 1921, addressed jointly to Henry and Michael James Babington Smith.
The British Broadcasting Corporation, Broadcasting House, London, W.1.—Invites him to prepare and deliver, on stated terms, a radio talk on Mahatma Gandhi for the General Overseas Service.
(A printed form, with details typed in. Signed p.p. Ronald Boswell, Talks Booking Manager.)
1 Brick Court, Temple, London, E.C.4. Dated 25 April 1919 - Sends him a Geographical Journal with an article on Southern Abyssinia; is sorry to hear his ship is delayed; found a phonograph at Liverpool for him, which Lilly secured for him.
(Carbon copy. Date of recording, etc., taken from 5/120a.)
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I made the acquaintance of Gandhi long before he was a world figure. In the early years of the century he became interested in the British Suffragette movement and came to lunch with my wife and myself in our London flat. He told us about his non-violent resistance campaign in South Africa. We found that we had much in common, not least in his doctrine that a willingness to endure suffering was a surer way to win political reform than to inflict it upon others.
The bond of friendship thus formed remained unbroken throughout the many vicissitudes of our political relationship. Even when I was most in disagreement with him I never doubted his sincerity and singlemindedness and I am confident that he never doubted mine.
I had many talks at different times with Gandhi—in India in 1926 when his resistance movement was at its height, in London in 1931 when we sat together on the Round Table Conference and during the many months when as Secretary of State I was in India with the British Cabinet Mission discussing daily with him and other leading Indian Statesmen the future governance of their land.
I have sometimes heard it said that Gandhi had an animosity against this country, and that particularly in the later part of his life he tried to do harm to Britain and her Empire. This is quite untrue. Gandhi had no such feelings or designs. Throughout his life he carried with him friendly memories of the time he spent in England as a young man and of the English friends he made then and on other visits.
What distressed Gandhi was imperialism as he saw it expressed in the attitude of the British Government towards India. He believed passionately that this was soul-destroying not only to his own countrymen but to the nobler instincts for freedom inherent in the British people. It was against this that he formulated his battle cry of “Quit India” which he was careful to explain did not mean expulsion from India of men and women of British race but the end of British rule. And it was because the word Dominion smacked to him of Domination that he rejected the offer of Dominion Status.
I never discussed with him the precise form of relationship between India and the British Commonwealth which would be most acceptable to him after India obtained her independent status and in fact he died before the matter came to be decided at a Conference of Commonwealth Prime Ministers. But I have no reason to think that he would have disagreed with the attitude taken up by Pandit Nehru which was accepted there.
I did not find Gandhiji a very easy person with whom to negotiate a political settlement. Where he considered a matter of principle was at stake he was very unwilling to make concessions. Even when in verbal discussion he appeared to have conceded a point I frequently discovered afterwards that his interpretation of our talk was not the same as mine. Some little word or phrase he had used which seemed unimportant at the time, I found later rendered the concession nugatory.
On the other hand Gandhi was often most generous in attributing good motives to those who differed from him. Another of his endearing qualities was his unbounded faith in the possibilities of ordinary men and women. There was no height of nobility or sacrifice which he would hesitate to demand from them. And it was wonderful how often they responded to his faith in them.
But this too had its dangerous side for he did not always seem to me to realise that Governments in the exercise of their responsibilities must sometimes use compulsory powers to restrain wrongdoers from doing harm to others.
Gandhi was known as a Mahatma on account of his ascetic life and his great spiritual faith which he drew from Hindu, Christian, Moslem and other religious sources. He was a great man too in the mundane sense because he won the allegiance of tens of millions of his fellow men and women and was rightly accounted one of the architects of Indian independence. I treasure his memory not only for these qualities but as that of a firm personal friend during the major part of a long life.
19 Cranmer Road, Cambridge - Notes Frazer was the one who first encouraged him to write a book on Zeus, and now sends him the third volume; feels scholarship is 'one of the few remaining bonds which still unite all civilised nations'; apologises for being an unsociable hermit while finishing the book, knows Frazer understands. Accompanied by the envelope.
Replies to her request for information [about the French translations of the third edition of Frazer's 'Golden Bough']; he has looked at proofs of 'Le dieu qui meurt'; he gave the first volume of 'Balder le magnifique' to Geuthner in 1928, and the second volume is ready to be sent when he wants it; the first volume of 'Esprits des blés et des bois' is ready, but no date for publication has ever been mentioned; the rhythm of publication has slowed despite his reminders; the two volumes of 'Balder' are available to be published next; he can't compile an index while also working on proofs; he worked on one book in 1928 that appeared without his name on the cover as translator, [typical?] of French publishers; he has no interest in defending Geuthner.
Accompanied by an envelope originally from Macmillan to Frazer, with 'Sayn, 4 March 1930' written in Lady Frazer's hand.
The Mill House, Westcot, Dorking. - Sorry to hear about Bessie's cold; hopes it has now gone. Has discovered some 'wonderful woodland places in the valley... the woods here are quite endless'. Impatiently waiting for spring; is usually in Italy in February and March. She should read Flaubert's letters; he expresses several things Bob feels but is 'too lazy' or lacks the power to explain. Is having difficulty getting into the right frame of mind to work, but thinks he has made his play better by his alterations. Has been reading some Heine and [Goethe's] "Faust" in German, but cannot really spare enough time for it. Much interested in the 'domestic politics' Bessie mentions, and would like to meet some more of her half-sisters; expects he will when he comes to the Netherlands soon. Asks her to thank her uncle for his kind letter; would like to leave the question of the post-marriage celebrations to her and her father; is always 'rather afraid of formal speeches and ceremonies' but would not object if they wanted it. Wonders how she likes "Wuthering Heights"; for him 'crude as it is in some ways... it beats almost all English novels'. Is pleased that [Alfred] Enticknap has got a permanent place at a nearby house, though he will still be able to do some work for him and even the Frys, who say he is a 'firstclass gardener'.
8, Grosvenor Crescent, S.W. - Will send this letter to Florence as expects Elizabeth and Robert will leave Ravello today; sorry that they have not had good weather. Has been very busy this week visiting Cheyne Gardens: [George and Janet's new baby Mary] is very sweet and Janet is doing well; George was worried until it was over but now is cheerful. He and Sir George, and perhaps Charlie, are going to Cambridge next Friday to vote against compulsory Greek; they do not expect to succeed but there is 'a great rally on both sides'; it is said it would be carried if it depended on the residents. The Watts and Whistler exhibitions [at the Royal Academy and the New Gallery, Regent Street] are both 'most interesting collections', and there is a 'wonderful show of Oriental China in Bond Street'. Asks if Elizabeth and Robert will prefer to go straight home or stay the night in London; is anxious to see them again. It will be interesting for them to see the [new] house and the Enticknaps' baby. Sorry that Charles Booth is still so unwell; has not quite understood whether Mary and Imogen joined them. Glad Elizabeth is not going to Holland; thinks it would be too cold and damp. There is much illness about here; Uncle Harry has bronchitis, and Nora [Trevelyan?] a bad cold. They have decided to keep the old Broadwood piano in London, and want Elizabeth to choose a little one for Welcombe before Easter. Has heard no music, but they have been to a Bernard Shaw play ["John Bull's Other Island"]. Booa [Mary Prestwich] cheerful and looking forward to seeing Elizabeth; Janet much pleased with her letters. '"Mother" [possibly Florence Bell?] is very active and... good on such an occasion'.
Steep, Petersfield. - Glad that Julian is well again and enjoying school; looks forward to seeing him when able to visit and thanks Trevelyan for suggesting it. Agrees about [Lascelles] Abercrombie; a friend who knows "The End of the World" (which Thomas remembers Trevelyan discussing) says that it will be a 'triumph' for Abercrombie, and Thomas hopes it will. Asks if he spoke to Trevelyan about [W. H. Hudson's] "The Purple Land [that England Lost]": would be glad to have been the cause of the 'delight' he must have had; he could try "Green Mansions" now. Pleased to hear Trevelyan can agree about [Walter] Pater: people thought he 'sat down deliberately to disparage' Pater when in fact he was an 'old admirer & only found on studying him for the purposes of the book [his "Walter Pater: A Critical Study"] how much' he could not admire. Would like five years free of reading or writing about books. Is going to Carmarthenshire for a couple of weeks after Easter with his two elder children; they will keep him 'free from books'.
Congratulates CJM on his results in the Mathematical Tripos
84 Merrion Square, Dublin.—Is happy for his name to be used to help obtain passports for Rudolf Steiner and his companions. Is depressed by the present condition of Ireland. Refers to his forthcoming book, The Interpreters.
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84 Merrion Sq | Dublin
30 Sept 22
My dear Mrs Pethick Lawrence
Your letter dated 22nd arrived this morning. In addition to our other national troubles we had a national postal strike which concluded today & brought me your letter. I know little or nothing about Dr Rudolf Steiner. Of course I know his name but little beyond that except I once started to read a book on the Threefold State & could not relate it to anything in my own country & so did not study it carefully. I have no knowledge of his mystical books, {1} though friends of mine have spoken to me about them. I read hardly any mystical literature except the Sacred Books. So you see I cannot lend any authority to your invitation to Dr Steiner so far as authority arises from knowledge of his ideas. But if you think it could help to ease the obtaining of passports or the like for Dr Steiners company by all means append my name to the others. We are all very depressed here. I think Ireland will come right in about ten years but just now it is very melancholy being here & seeing the wreck of movements one spent ones life in building up. My wife is fairly well. The new book “The Interpreters” will not I think be published until a little before Christmas or perhaps next spring. It has to be set up in USA as well as in England, {1} and I do not know when the American printers will have it ready. With kind regards
Yours sincerely
A.E.
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{1} Comma substituted for a full stop.
110 Banbury Road, Oxford.—Thanks him for the steps he has taken in connection his article [on Fanshawe?] and acknowledges his criticisms. It may be as well that it was rejected by Scrutiny, since Foligno might have disapproved of its ferocity. Refers to Fanshawe’s sonnets [his translations of sonnets by Camões] and some references he needs to look up. Discusses a point in the Inferno. Has discovered a Dürer drawing while researching Le Pautre in the Bodleian, and his article on it is to be printed in Old Master Drawings.
S.S. ‘Ranchi’.—Describes his and his wife’s journey by ship from Marseilles as far as Crete.
(Mechanical copy of a typed original. Subjoined is the text of a telegram dated 5 Nov.)
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P & O. S. N. Co. | S. S. Ranchi
The last day to Port Said, October 26th, 1[926]
A deep blue sea, with tiny dancing waves is all around the ship as I write. The sun is exceptionally hot for this part of the voyage and the shade temperature has been close on 80º for the last couple of days. The time since we reached Marseilles has passed along very pleas[ant]ly and very rapidly.
The ship did not start till late Friday night so we spent the afternoo[n] of that day walking about in Marseilles in a park by the sea and climbin[g] by the funicular to the golden Virgin on the hill.
All Friday night the mails were coming on board and it was 5 a.m. before we actually left the harbour. But the French coast was still plainly visible when we got up and for some hours afterwards. By midday there was nothing to be seen but ocean.
The first two days of the trip were a bit choppy and the lethargy o[f] the beginning of a voyage with the bromide of the sea made us sleepy and a little headachy; our cabin on the bottom deck with its port hole closed would have been unbearable but for delicious draughts of fresh air that were poured in continuously just over our berths by a special ventilating apparatus.
We speedily found several people we knew on board and made the acquai[n]tance of several more. Curiously enough they are all judges in India. One (Blackwell) has played tennis with me in the Inner Temple, another (Rankin) was at Trinity with me, and is now Chief Justice in Calcutta. Blackwell and his wife are going out to Bombay for the first time and have invited us to stay with them on our return there. They also introduced us to Mr. Justice Crump and his wife with whom we played Bridge last night. Still another Judge, an Indian, Sir C Ghose, is on board with his wife returning after a visit to Europe; he is a friend of Bose, and was in England during the suffragette campaign and attended some of the meetings.
We passed through the Straits of Bonifacio (between Corsica and Sardinia) after dark on Saturday evening and saw nothing but the intermittent lights of the lighthouse. We were more fortunate on Sunday. Two thirty in the afternoon saw us opposite the volcanic island of Stromboli with its crater emitting smoke; quite a large village is gathered at its foot with a population that I am told lives by fishing. Another hour and a half brought us in sight of Sicily and we ran into the narrow Straits of Messina before darkness came upon us. Avoiding the fierce promontory of “Scylla” on the Italian coast, and the treacherous whirlpool of “Charybdis” on the Sicilian side, we steamed on past Messina now fully lighted up, and the wonderful illuminated promenade of Italian Reggio and so out into the open sea once more.
Another 24 hours brought us to the lighthouse on Crete and that on the island of Gaydo just south of the larger island. We are due at Port Said before day-break on Wednesday, October 27th.
We have already had a dance on board and several games; and a sports committee has been formed of which I am a member. After Port Said they will put up more awnings and players will not be subject to the fierce sun. We are due at Bombay on Friday morning November 5th. Our address while in India will be c/o Thos. Cook and Son, Bombay.
F. W. PETHICK-LAWRENCE.
P.S. Cable received from Bombay, 5th. November, 1926, as follows:—
“Arrived safely after a calm journey. Both well. Made several friends and enjoyed the dances on board.”
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The right-hand side of the text has missed the paper. The missing letters have been supplied in square brackets.
20 Somerset Terrace (Duke’s Road, W.C.).—Expresses her appreciation of his love.
The Prince of Wales proposes to reach Madingley on the evening of Saturday the 19th. The Prince Consort hopes WW has not forgotten his promise to give the Prince some lectures on Political Economy.
Queen's College, Oxford - Thanks WW for book on the 'Philosophy of Discovery' ['On the Philosophy of Discovery', 1860]: 'In another form I have long known and valued it' ['The Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences, Founded upon their History', 2 vols., 1840].
States that he would have written last Autumn to inform him that his eldest son was going up to Trinity, and to ask him and Mrs Sidgwick to show him what kindness they could. Admits that it is now 'rather late in the day', but hopes that they might seek him out, as he [Elliott senior] would greatly value the Sidgwicks' friendship and advice to his son. Gives an account of the boy's activities since leaving school, and his time at Trinity, and expresses concern about his future. Reports that Fred Myers 'has been good to him'. With regard to his time in India, he reports that since he last saw Sidgwick he has had the post of Public Works Minister. Discusses the Department and the work it carries out, including canal construction throughout India. Mentions Sidgwick's efforts to revise the University's constitution and states that '[t]here is an undercurrent of sedition which has to be checked'. Expresses the desire to 'talk it all out with' Sidgwick. Mentions having read the Psychical Journal.
One of 48 notebooks, Add.MS.c.113-150, used for Powell's edition of Thucydides published in 1942. Collation of Marseilles Aa 1.
Powell, John Enoch (1912-1998), politician