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10 Pelham Place, S.W.7. - Was 'very much moved' by Bob's poems [this year's "From the Shiffolds"]: both to have been remembered by him and by many of the poems themselves. Is 'passing through a bad patch' of having to hold his 'nose... to the grindstone to produce funds', and Bob's poems 'soothed' him greatly. Is writing a 'most awful book' for Kodaks on 'Photography in Education'. Margaret has been ill and has been operated on for varicose veins in her leg, but she is better now and hopes to 'get home to the country and resume a normal life' this Friday. Has been lecturing on 'Visual Aids to Education' at 'a thing called "The Bath Academy of Art"'. Henriette Sturge Moore, who teaches Dramatic Art there, has spoke 'affectionately' of him to Bob and Bessie. Margaret sends love to them both.

The Mill House, Westcott, Dorking. - Glad to hear Aunt Maria is generally better; hopes her health will continue to improve. Also glad that [Alphonse] Grandmont and Jan [Hubrecht] are recovering, and that Tuttie [Hubrecht] has 'come back so much stronger'. Thinks about Grandmont every morning when they eat his 'black-butter' at breakfast; they wonder why it is black since it comes from the 'juice of white apples'. Bessie is well, despite the bad weather; there has been much wind and rain and 'her violin strings squeak, for all that she can do'. She is going to have her second lesson with [Johann] Kruse next week, who was unfortunately away when they last went to London. Two of his friends, both poets, visited on Sunday; one of them [Thomas Sturge] Moore read a play yesterday ["Omphale and Heracles'; they thought it 'very good' and wished it could be put on, but 'they do not act good plays in England now, except Shakespeare, and that they usually do badly'; the actors too are 'bad'. Bessie thinks English coal fires create much 'dust and dirt even when they do not smoke badly'; admits they do in comparison to Dutch stoves, but he does like open fires; whoever invented a fireplace combining the advantages of the two styles would be a 'great benefactor to man'. Spent three 'very full days in Paris with the same two friends' [at the Paris Exhibition]; might have wished Bessie to be there too but she would not have enjoyed the 'fearful'' crowds; even they got tired. Thought the 'old French art... very fine'; the 'side-shows and sights at the Exhibition were very poor' and the 'buildings too florid and ornamental, and some of them hideous', but the 'general effect... was very splendid and brilliant'. Is interested in the Queen [Wilhelmina of the Netherlands]' marriage, and glad 'the Dutch are pleased'; Bessie was 'quite sympathetic' when [Duke Henry of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, the Queen's betrothed] 'had to say good-bye to her and go away to his country for a time] [as Robert had had to during their own courtship]. They have got an 'illustrated paper' about the royal couple. Next week, they are going to visit his aunt, Mrs Price, who gave them the piano, at her house in the Welsh borders; he has not been there since he was a boy, so is curious to see the place again. Bessie will write soon, but there is no time now as this has to catch the post; she sends love to all.

Penrhôs, Holyhead.—Praises his Budget speech. Is sorry he can’t come to Penrhôs and that she won’t see him or the Prime till they return from Scotland. Invites him to stay at Alderley on his way south. There is a large family party at Penrhôs. Discusses the camp at Lulworth. Is going to Ireland next week, then to Ardgowan.

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Penrhôs, Holyhead
Monday 11th August 1913

I was much amused by your characteristic and gloomy telegram, and delighted that your fore-bodings were so ill founded. I thought, with apparently every one who heard your speech, that it was most excellent, far the best Budget speech you’ve ever made, how can you expect to be moved from your present place if you are so singularly good at it! I am very very sorry you couldnt come here, I felt a great inclination to see you. Its one of the rather sad aspects of my summer (which is otherwise rather a nice one) that I shant see the two people I have most fun with and enjoy talking to most, you and the Prime, until you all come back from Scotland. You must come to Alderley on your way South. Its very delicious here, and as I am now passionately fond of tennis my days are very much filled in.

We are a large family party and over next Sunday we shall all be here, Francis Henley is the only nominal stranger. I had the most delicious life at Lulworth with the Club boys. Violet & I lived in a farm house, while Cys and the two Bongies {1} lived in tents with the boys. You would have hated it. We bathed a good deal and Violet & I played football for the first time, its, I think, far the most thrilling game I’ve ever played, it intoxicated me, otherwise we didnt do very much. I cant help thinking the elder Bongie a most dreary and juiceless man, with a very bad sense of humour, he has all the sterling worth of the family tho’. Perhaps its merely because he’s lived all his life in Egypt. He loathes the boys, thinks them odious and undisciplined.

I’m glad I didnt send this off this morning as I’ve just got the most wonderful dewdrop for you, which you must like getting. Its from the Prime, who quite unsolicited, writes to me and says “your speech was very good, in fact of remarkable excellence”. Arent you pleased?

Write and tell me your news, as I think I’ve already mentioned I’m much neglected by my friends, and you have no excuse (always a rotten one) of not knowing my address.

I go to Ireland next week for a few days and as usual to Ardgowan on the 25th.

My news, as you can see is non-existant†, but I’ve ridden, bathed and played 6 sets of tennis, so physically I am very active, but mentally quite fallow. I’ve nothing to read, have you anything to suggest.

Goodbye, I wish you were coming here.

Yrs always
Venetia

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{1} Sir Edgar and Maurice Bonham Carter, the former being the ‘elder Bongie’ mentioned later.

† Sic.

Tigné Barracks, Malta. Description of Malta, was to convalesce in Florence.

Refers to the letters from Henry Sidgwick to her father [A. J. Patterson], and states that her mother regrets having taken so long to finds them. Says that in all they number about sixty, and that 'almost all date since the year 1886.' Offers to send them to Nora. Adds that if her father kept the letters from years prior to 1886, these 'must be still in London, either at the Stores or at the Bank', and she regrets to say that they are not yet at her mother's disposal.

RS's views on University and Trinity College reform: 'I have always objected to the course of the commissioners [Commissioners on University Reform] in mixing up, in one report, matters so dissimilar on the university, and the private colleges. I have never had any doubt that the university belongs to the country, generally; and that when the state was opened to all religious sects, the university should have been opened too'. The university is the Senate and it is in the capacity of members of this body that the necessary arrangements must be made. RS feels with regard to the college 'that we have left the right path which were clearly marked out by our statutes. The teaching was originally by persons appointed by the master and seniors and paid by the college. This is the form to which I would return'. RS gives his scheme for reforming the standard of private tutors. He does not want the college 'having any more intimate relations or communication with the university'. The students should be more rigorously selected in the first instance: 'The college was not founded for general education, but for the best and highest kind of education, and indeed for that kind of education for which there never has been, and never will be, a money compensation'. The college should borrow at a low rate of interest and not a high one. RS's aim is 'to make the college what it ought to be, not merely the best of existing institutions, (which it is very nearly) but a 'ne plus ultra''. He thinks 'we should do a good deal (more than we do do, and that is a good deal) for our really clever men, who are slenderly provided for'. Concerning 'the present constitution of Trinity College we have succeeded so much better than any other institution, that I should not like to make any innovation, (I consider what I have said above to be merely renovations)'. RS thinks it is 'a fault in our schools and universities to draw a very tight rule, and then to wink at exceptions; just as it is the fault of almost all parents to spoil their children by seniority or indulgence, and to expect the college to cure all that'. Teaching and discipline should be in different hands.

AD's young friend Edward H. Ayrton has not heard anything since his examination at Trinity College. His mother 'fears there may be some mistake - if not...let her know the date of his admission'.

Clifton - Thanks WW for his three works: 'One is above me, but I have read your remarks on Hegel [On Hegel's Criticism of Newton's Principia, 1849] and Mill [Of Induction, 1849] with much pleasure. The former you have well demolished; and I concur in much the greater part of your criticism of the latter, though not having his system of logic by me, I cannot go fully into it'. HH gives his comments on some of WW's remarks in his Philosophy of the Inductive Sciences (1840): 'I have no right to object to your definition of Induction, though it seems to me more limited than ever the modern use of the word'. HH's remark is primarily directed at what WW says of the ancient induction. HH situates his understanding of Aristotle in the debate.

Mattishall - Miss Blakesley's illness, Lawrence's sketches, Vipan returning to London, Johnson doleful about his degree, wishes to lend Johnson an atlas of the ancient world

Houghton. - Charlotte reports Charley improved. Beau Brummell's note interested the family, but few remembered him; Milnes' description of a. dandy as an 'unprincipled exquisite' confirms her feelings that Brummell's career does not merit a biography. Mr Thackeray's lectures on the 'Four Georges' bring royalty into disrepute for private gain; the Kings were not faultless but the nation advanced considerably under their rule and a patriot should recognise the fact; quotes Montalembert on respect for the throne; to lose such respect would be disastrous for the country,

Motz, H. 1950, 1954

Neurath, M.L. 1954-55, 1960

Newton-John, I. various dates 1954-70. (Daughter of M.Born; includes some recollections.)

Papers

Held 10-11 September 1959; Synge gave the Symposium Lecture on 'Naturally occuring peptides and their biological significance' and a paper on 'Electrophoretic behaviour of cupric complexes of oligopeptides' (with P.R. Carnegie).

Correspondence re arrangements, 1959; symposium handbook of Programme and summaries of papers